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Topic: Chateau St Croix - Brugge Belgium
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Ozebeaver Member
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posted 09-24-2006 09:20 AM
Would anyone on the list be able to help me out with the location of the above Chateau please?In an 1869 letter the address is given as Chateau St Croix 78 Rue Kratenbury Bruges Belgium I am wondering if the Sint-Kruis (Dutch form of St Croix) would have any bearing on the location. Any information or guidance as to where to look would be great. |
Malc_Chr Member
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posted 09-25-2006 07:22 AM
No idea, but Sint-Kruis is almost certainly St Cross. A quick google brough up about six castles, four of them can be seen on a local cycle tour http://www.vakantiegenoegens.be/wandelpad/Wandelfiche_model.pdf The ruins of Veltembos, seem to be nearer Assebroek and the sixth (Ryckevelde castle) seems too modern, but you can find a location map at http://www.damme-online.com/gb/maps/sijsele.htm |
Ozebeaver Member
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posted 09-25-2006 11:25 AM
Thank you Marc, I will have a browse and see what I can make a connection.Elizabeth |
Aiken Drum Senior Member
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posted 09-26-2006 05:22 AM
http://www.ushistoricalarchive.com/photochroms/3555.html
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Ozebeaver Member
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posted 09-26-2006 08:44 AM
Thank you so much for the link for the pic. So the Chateau is actually a city gate or is it still regarded as a chateau?Liz |
Aiken Drum Senior Member
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posted 09-26-2006 09:15 AM
I'm not even sure if it still exists, but it seems to be a city gate rather than a chateau. I did come across mention of a cathedral of the same name, and rather than St Cross, I'd suggest a more reasonable translation would be cross of the saints, most european languages having adjectives after the noun. This would indicate some sort of stone cross or crossroads at a religious site, rather than the implication that there was a saint with an unusual name. You'd need to study the local history of Bruges to find out more.[This message has been edited by Aiken Drum (edited 09-26-2006).] |
Ozebeaver Member
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posted 09-26-2006 09:26 AM
Hi Aiken,Reading up on Brugges is something I have been doing since last Friday. The St Croix Gate is still cited on a couple of maps. Five original gates have survived time and it is in the area I was looking but just closer to city heart. If I can just find a Victorian map of Brugge I might be able to find the street that was cited in the letter. Thanks for all your help. Liz |
ipflo Moderator
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posted 09-26-2006 03:31 PM
hi,I found some more info/ pictures about the gate (in dutch the name is Kruispoort): http://i1.trekearth.com/photos/1593/kaart_brugge1_filtered.jpg http://www.belgiumview.com/belgiumview/tl1/view0001223.php4 http://foto.brugge.be/TorensEnKerken/tkkruisp.jpg http://www.digitalefotosite-corenjoke.com/brugge.htm http://www.digitalefotosite-corenjoke.com/brug_18.jpg The street of the gate is called: langestraat. ipflo |
ipflo Moderator
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posted 09-26-2006 03:42 PM
Also very nice to try is the following:Go to: http://www.beeldbankbrugge.be/ Select on the left: zoeken (= search) Select again on the left: vrij zoeken (=free search) Type in the searchwindow under "zoekterm" (= search term): 'kruispoort'. Press the button, called zoeken. Now you will get 7 pages with old photo's of the kruispoort. ipflo |
Ozebeaver Member
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posted 09-27-2006 01:11 AM
Wow thanks heaps. Will have a look later tonight when the thunderstorms have passed.Liz |